The chair 4-tetrahydropyranyl cation and the 4-quinuclidinyl cation are shown to be energy minima and to be delocalized, with exceptionally long CH2CH2 bonds, according to B3LYP/6-31G* calculations; the implications for Prins cyclizations, Cope rearrangements, and Grob fragmentations are discussed.
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