Analysis shows equivalence between Anonymous Collapse and Dual Shioya Collapse for large cardinals, indicating parallels in forcing strategies.
We analyze some posets involved in forcing constructions for dense ideals, showing that the Anonymous Collapse and the Dual Shioya Collapse are equivalent for collapsing a large cardinal to ω₂. We also give a somewhat simplified construction of a normal ideal I on ω₂ such that P(ω₂)/I ~ Col(ω₁,ω₂).
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